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09-27-2019, 11:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-27-2019, 11:23 PM by Alvino Castillon.)
First off, we did not hand out any decision regarding the N-word incident, nor was it fully "dealt with." At that time, we came to a unanimous decision to apply a ban, but never decided on the length of said ban. After that, we all became busy with other matters in our lives and to be frank, forgot about the situation.
Secondly, I spoke with the two moderators in question, Blacaria and Flo. Blac informed me that there was a misunderstanding. When Blac spoke to you, he told me he was extremely exhausted and hadn't realized what was being said. The fact is, Blacaria brought up the ban yesterday, reminding us that we didn't move forward on this. As we had agreed on performing the ban and a majority of us (those that are active enough anyways) approved of it again, he went forward and placed a ban, setting it for two years until we came to an agreement on the time length of the ban.
This was where issues arose. No one coordinated on a ban message, nor was it clear at that time that Blac could not send one as he had blocked Lom some time back. As a result, no materials were prepared to explain the circumstances properly. This wasn't made clear to us until later on the next day, when Flo brought it up. Speaking of which...
Flo meanwhile had left the server some time back due to Lom's behavior and was no longer on hand for any further discussion. He wasn't part of the decision to ban him nor did he do so. He honestly had no idea that the ban was in place until after Blac had applied it. When he came back and realized that certain announcements and messages had not been sent, he brought it to our attention and immediately we started to work on that, especially given concerns that were raised. To be frank, I had no idea that people had believed someone went rogue until about an hour ago when I started putting pieces together and realizing how badly things had been screwed up by everyone.
Side Note: Flo told me "I definitely did not say i tried to totally undo the ban. he stretched that one." As a reminder, Flo was not on the server at this time so he really did not go rogue.
As for why the two years wasn't mentioned, I was the one who drafted the original statement. Literally everyone told me to mention that the two years was a placeholder but I opted not to as I hadn't understood the gravity of the situation and didn't realize it would be considered a cover up when in fact it was a terrible failure of communication. I figured someone would at most ask about it and we would explain it was a placeholder. I wanted to keep the statement as clear and concise as possible and didn't understand that it was a critical detail.
What's clear is Flo did not "go rogue" nor did Blac. Blac asked us to apply our ban decision made some time back and it was agreed by a majority. We then failed to explain to folks what was going on due to a combination of general incompetence and being extremely busy/exhausted with life. The fact was that rather than it being something sinister, it was sheer incompetence on the part of the Moderation Team as we were not completely prepared for this.
As for the logs, if you mean the audit logs of bans and what not, this shows Blac did perform the ban.
The decision for a ban was unanimous at the time and it stands as unanimous now. When the statement said the goodwill ran out, we meant it. His previous incident had him facing a one day ban, with the N-word matter being considered serious enough for a one month ban rather than a permanent one.
As for that rogue shit? Are you actually serious? I just spent two hours piecing together what happened only to realize, no one really cares THAT much to start a vast conspiracy against a member who has repeatedly been nothing but obnoxious, racist, sexist, and just plain fucking terrible. The truth is he's honestly a terrible person whose file includes but is not limited to:
-The Hollywood comment
-The sexist gun ban (“emotional women”) comment
-The libtards comment
-Literally any commentary about Islam
-The HIV/AIDS insult (to Hadash and myself)
-The goyim insult (to myself)
-The snowflake insult (to Flo)
-“Party that r*pes women” comment
-The N-word Incident
And those were the comments we came to decisions on, AFTER we "wiped the slate clean."
So no. This isn't a vast conspiracy. He's just generally terrible and the fact folks are accusing Flo of "going rogue" to dunk on a forum is not only rude and inconsiderate, it's stupid.
Secondly, I spoke with the two moderators in question, Blacaria and Flo. Blac informed me that there was a misunderstanding. When Blac spoke to you, he told me he was extremely exhausted and hadn't realized what was being said. The fact is, Blacaria brought up the ban yesterday, reminding us that we didn't move forward on this. As we had agreed on performing the ban and a majority of us (those that are active enough anyways) approved of it again, he went forward and placed a ban, setting it for two years until we came to an agreement on the time length of the ban.
This was where issues arose. No one coordinated on a ban message, nor was it clear at that time that Blac could not send one as he had blocked Lom some time back. As a result, no materials were prepared to explain the circumstances properly. This wasn't made clear to us until later on the next day, when Flo brought it up. Speaking of which...
Flo meanwhile had left the server some time back due to Lom's behavior and was no longer on hand for any further discussion. He wasn't part of the decision to ban him nor did he do so. He honestly had no idea that the ban was in place until after Blac had applied it. When he came back and realized that certain announcements and messages had not been sent, he brought it to our attention and immediately we started to work on that, especially given concerns that were raised. To be frank, I had no idea that people had believed someone went rogue until about an hour ago when I started putting pieces together and realizing how badly things had been screwed up by everyone.
Side Note: Flo told me "I definitely did not say i tried to totally undo the ban. he stretched that one." As a reminder, Flo was not on the server at this time so he really did not go rogue.
As for why the two years wasn't mentioned, I was the one who drafted the original statement. Literally everyone told me to mention that the two years was a placeholder but I opted not to as I hadn't understood the gravity of the situation and didn't realize it would be considered a cover up when in fact it was a terrible failure of communication. I figured someone would at most ask about it and we would explain it was a placeholder. I wanted to keep the statement as clear and concise as possible and didn't understand that it was a critical detail.
What's clear is Flo did not "go rogue" nor did Blac. Blac asked us to apply our ban decision made some time back and it was agreed by a majority. We then failed to explain to folks what was going on due to a combination of general incompetence and being extremely busy/exhausted with life. The fact was that rather than it being something sinister, it was sheer incompetence on the part of the Moderation Team as we were not completely prepared for this.
As for the logs, if you mean the audit logs of bans and what not, this shows Blac did perform the ban.
Quote:As it stands now, for all I can see some members of the Directorate single-handedly threw out a member on the basis of a re-evaluation of past offences and tried to do so behind everyone's backs. And now we're handed some sort of explanation that doesn't add up. So pardon me for asking some concrete evidence here.
The decision for a ban was unanimous at the time and it stands as unanimous now. When the statement said the goodwill ran out, we meant it. His previous incident had him facing a one day ban, with the N-word matter being considered serious enough for a one month ban rather than a permanent one.
As for that rogue shit? Are you actually serious? I just spent two hours piecing together what happened only to realize, no one really cares THAT much to start a vast conspiracy against a member who has repeatedly been nothing but obnoxious, racist, sexist, and just plain fucking terrible. The truth is he's honestly a terrible person whose file includes but is not limited to:
-The Hollywood comment
-The sexist gun ban (“emotional women”) comment
-The libtards comment
-Literally any commentary about Islam
-The HIV/AIDS insult (to Hadash and myself)
-The goyim insult (to myself)
-The snowflake insult (to Flo)
-“Party that r*pes women” comment
-The N-word Incident
And those were the comments we came to decisions on, AFTER we "wiped the slate clean."
So no. This isn't a vast conspiracy. He's just generally terrible and the fact folks are accusing Flo of "going rogue" to dunk on a forum is not only rude and inconsiderate, it's stupid.