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WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 05-15-2019
NPC Campaign Submission |
| NPC Country: Kave and Ostland NPC Location: Brigidna NPC Government: Duchy for Kave, Republic for Ostland Campaign Setting: Post-1600 Informational Links: /Y E E T NPC History Ostland and Kave have been mostly sleepy since their creation. They've been loosely involved with the WBEA and attended the Essig Conference recently. Campaign Plot This is the interesting part. I'm thinking WBU begins manipulating activities in Ostland and Kave with the intention of bringing them into the fold while still appearing outwardly friendly/involved. With Ostland, being a republic, influencing elections is obviously an option, while promoting candidates that are party to our cause could help, it could be just as suitable to support wild candidates who would destabilize the country and lead to protests/unrest. If the protests become bad enough, someone would have to ensure peace returns to Ostland, right? With Kave, we have a few options, we could try to negotiate with them, but we could also sponsor republican groups that seek democratic institutions in Kave, and if successful nudge them in our direction. I could see some sort of coup attempt in Kave to remove the royalists in power and replace them with republican government. If our clandestine activities dont work very well, we could ultimately just invade under some pretense, or facilitate a more direct coup-d'etat in either country to force them to bend to our will. We'll see how things progress. WBU is interested in protecting its reputation, but maybe not that much. We'll see how this progresses and work from there. We have a lot of options. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, monsieur directorate. Potential for Other Player Involvement Nerysia would certainly have interest in this, as might Gehenna and Aurentine, Lanlania, etc. Nents and I discussed a cloak and dagger game, particularly in Ostland. This could also lead to Nerysia doing something or other with regards to Dyrheim as a means for matching WBU's expansion. |
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 06-02-2019
Thought up a rough outline for Kave. May put Ostland on the backb burner for a while.
So Kave:
-parliamentary elections happen, and a party the duke doesnt like gets a slim super majority and the ability to change constitution with that supermajority. This extreme party could be hardcore republic - wants to remove the duke, or could be a pro WBU party that wants to join WBU, or something else idc.
-duke refuses to recognize new PM and that triggers new elections. Except this second time the party earns EVEN MORE of a supermajority as the people basically reject the dukes decision.
-duke is mad, he tries to dissolve parliament (which he technically has the ability to do) but this goes against the will of the people.
-parliament, in retaliation, passes a constitutional amendment to dissolve the monarchy. their ability to do this is more hazy, but they technically have the right to do so.
-both sides claim to be legitimate govt. Duke calls military to enforce his rule, they do. Parliament leaders flee to WBU, where they are in exile.
-WBU goes back and ends it, ousts duke, parliament restored. If their goal was to join WBU, they have that vote. if their goal was just to end monarchy, they do that and then WBU quietly makes them hold referendum on joining WBU which is successful.
some sort of rough outline. thoughts?
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Seperallis - 06-02-2019
Option 3, Duke's not an idiot and says "lol k" and they just join.
I don't see a extreme party getting such a huge percent of the vote. Even if they did, I doubt they'd outright remove the duke because surely all the lands that are royal estate would just become his personal property rather than serving the government. At the most they wouldn't try to just "end" the monarchy, but just push it out of political power, making him a ceremonial head of state with no power. Or, if they didn't want to go that far, take a Luxembourg route where the duke still has political power, but that power resides with the nation, and he's simply a vessel for exercising it (assuming they don't already take that route; absolute monarchies are boring).
Really, I don't see why it wouldn't just...join? Or why it has to be "bluh! WBU!" just because it's headed by a duke. I think there is still plenty of potential for story in the back and forth of how it got there, rather than full on coup and dissolution of the state as we know it.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 06-03-2019
because just joining it is idk... boring? I'm fine with that though if the idea is bad. It was pretty wild
And the party isnt really "extreme" per se, just the monarch sees them as such I guess.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Hadash - 06-03-2019
I feel it would make more sense if the winning party has a more radical platform (either left-wing or republican, let's say), or their leader defends some controversial topic (such as full separation of church and state, for example), and even if they did not get such supermajority (because that kind of super-majorities happen very rarely) and probably were short of a simple majority and it needs the support of a party that it is controversial for some reason and the Duke considers unacceptable (communists, far-right, or some kind of separatists or ethnic minority party).
Because I'm not sure that joining the WBU would be such a hot topic in Kave, realistically, but just my opinion.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 06-03-2019
maybe republicans have to agree to work with hardline socialists to get that supermajority?
this is awesome btw I really like people chipping into the idea. This is great.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Seperallis - 06-04-2019
Well, it wouldn't have to just join. There are any manner of intrigues or problems that could arise that don't directly scream "throw out the monarchy," but that the monarchy might take as such. You could have a pro-WBU movement that wins, or at least gets to form the government, and the duke maybe doesn't like them but isn't dumb enough to invite the loss of his throne, so they form their government, but he throws hurdles at every step forcing referendums and taking the longest possible time to give consent and having to "reschedule" meetings and other things constantly, etc etc etc in a likely effort to wait out the clock and hope they're out of government over something. It can build from something small into a constitutional crisis, or a coup, or just a really long and rambly walk through political quagmire, or really anything else.
I'm just saying it doesn't have to be "Repubs threaten monarch, monarch says 'nah,' coup." It's fine if you want something quick and easy, but I'm giving my suggestions for more interesting writing/reading.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 06-05-2019
oh yeah it definitely doesnt have to be short by any means
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 06-15-2019
So after thinking about it, I think a long-winded political battle between a pro-WBU majority and a thorny Duke of Kave would be interesting. It'd be interesting to deal with various logistical troubles associated with expanding a very young country even further. What would Kave do if they werent very strongly represented, as they are a small country.
RE: WBU NPC Campaign Submission - Kave/Ostland - Flo - 07-24-2019
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approved?