Complaint over the GDP of Eretzora [PROCESSED]

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Complaint over the GDP of Eretzora [PROCESSED] - BrumBrum - 06-13-2017

Why is Eretzora getting dropped to 31 k at 24 million while the two countries approved after have only 40 million in the high 30's/ low 40 k's . Thats not fair. Eretzora should be given 40 k the top range like he asked for , its not unreasonable given he's already gone for a small nation. Perhaps even up to the 50 k level.

RE: Land Claim on Siora - Blacaria - 06-14-2017

(06-13-2017, 09:41 PM)BrumBrum Wrote: Why is Eretzora getting dropped to 31 k at 24 million while the two countries approved after have only 40 million in the high 30's/ low 40 k's . Thats not fair. Eretzora should be given 40 k the top range like he asked for , its not unreasonable given he's already gone for a small nation. Perhaps even up to the 50 k level.

Shrink the pop o/

RE: Land Claim on Siora - Arkiania - 06-17-2017

I'd argue 31K is quite generous given the region.

(06-13-2017, 09:41 PM)BrumBrum Wrote: Why is Eretzora getting dropped to 31 k at 24 million while the two countries approved after have only 40 million in the high 30's/ low 40 k's . Thats not fair. Eretzora should be given 40 k the top range like he asked for , its not unreasonable given he's already gone for a small nation. Perhaps even up to the 50 k level.

RE: Land Claim on Siora - Tivona Shneider - 06-17-2017

This has already been solved, but no it isn't. We outlined several points why:

1. In character the region is not empty, far from it. We cannot foresee the future, so nobody knows what kind of countries will fill in the space.
2. Other former USR nations are just as wealthy, with far greater populations.
3. A nation can realistically build its economy from the bottom to the top. It has been done in real life. Look at Israel as an example, which I've used as inspiration for Eretzora. The only difference? Eretzora is not at war with an entire region.
4. Kazemura, which is just to the east of Eretzora (aka even more isolated), has a per capita of 40,279.00 with a population of 60 million. So this is fair, but I am supposed to be content with 31K with only 25 million inhabitants. So no, I don't think considering the region 31 K is rather fair, unless of course it applies to all nations in the region.

RE: Land Claim on Siora - Ayzek - 06-17-2017

(06-17-2017, 05:19 PM)Tivona Shneider Wrote: This has already been solved, but no it isn't. We outlined several points why:

1. In character the region is not empty, far from it. We cannot foresee the future, so nobody knows what kind of countries will fill in the space.

The countries in that area will be on the larger side, with low population densities. It's that low population density that works against you, because I'm inclined to believe that a concentrated population allows for greater economic opportunity, growth, and strength, though perhaps not directly.

Quote:2. Other former USR nations are just as wealthy, with far greater populations.

Severyane: 28k, Saratov: 30k, Kubaniza: 36k; Calgarov: 15k; Nentsia: 17k; Mazaghea: <25k. Kubaniza only got that high because it's ultra-capitalist or something. Your old GDP per capita was more in tune with your "peers". Now you're actually the richest (though just barely).

However, I wish to clarify: a higher population does not mean that nation will have a low GDP per capita (and the inverse, of course). That's not how it works. Though "extreme" populations do have some influence. Your population is determined by the area you inhabit and its population density, while your GDP per capita is based on the image, detail, and history you give your nation (and its economy) in the form.

Quote:3. A nation can realistically build its economy from the bottom to the top. It has been done in real life. Look at Israel as an example, which I've used as inspiration for Eretzora. The only difference? Eretzora is not at war with an entire region.

No one argued otherwise. An economy can be built from scratch (fun fact: the Earth's was). But Israel didn't really build its economy from nothing. It developed it with foreign money. It's modern economy would likely be a lot less strong if it didn't have such an advantage. But I'm sure you could sucker some foreign nation to give you money too.

Quote:4. Kazemura, which is just to the east of Eretzora (aka even more isolated), has a per capita of 40,279.00 with a population of 60 million. So this is fine, but I am supposed to be content with 31K with only 25 million inhabitants? I don't think so. Clearly some double standards there. So no, I don't think considering the region 31 K is rather fair, unless of course it applies to all nations in the region. It never does, though.

Kazemura's GDP per capita is high due to the known information about it's economy: it's highly industrialized, advanced/technological, and has a large service sector. The country is based on Japan.

31k is a fair GDP per capita to give an ex-USR, given the GDP per capita of other states.

There are no double standards and I do not appreciate accusations otherwise. The standard used to determine population and GDP per capita is enforced on all potential nations equally: geography and history. It's not simple inverse correlation. That would be dumb.

RE: Land Claim on Siora - Seperallis - 06-17-2017

(06-17-2017, 06:17 PM)Ayzek Wrote: It's not simple inverse correlation. That would be dumb.

Can I quote this? I'm gonna quote this.

*edit*
See Videjszeme: approved for 16.6 million; gdppc of $20.7k

Lines, I suggest that we slash everyone's numbers for everything by 1/3rd. Except Nyland, because of course not. Flipped Smile

RE: Complaint over the GDP of Eretzora - Nentsia - 06-18-2017

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RE: Land Claim on Siora - Flo - 06-18-2017

(06-17-2017, 11:08 PM)Seperallis Wrote:
(06-17-2017, 06:17 PM)Ayzek Wrote: It's not simple inverse correlation. That would be dumb.
Can I quote this? I'm gonna quote this.

*edit*
See Videjszeme: approved for 16.6 million; gdppc of $20.7k

Lines, I suggest that we slash everyone's numbers for everything by 1/3rd. Except Nyland, because of course not.

I approve